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2006's most amusing letter from a band cancelling a show

musicislove 10 Jan 2007 13:23

Preamble: I'm not connected with the band.

I gotta say, I read that letter, and I didn't find it particularly offensive. I thought the band was polite and thorough in explaining why they thought they had been mistreated. Right or wrong, at least they had the decency to warn II they weren't planning on playing. I don't know who the band is and I don't want to. But I will say this... if you're not willing to respect yourself in this business, then no one else will. If you are putting on a show and bringing your friends on a weeknight, a 10 minute line-check and slight of adjustment of the PA is hardly out of line. It's not like you're asking for a rider of pure Egyptian cotton white towels and three frozen mangoes served in the skull of a monkey. At least the band had the foresight to try to contact the audio technician to run them through what changes would be necessary. Many would just expect the help on the night and leave it to the house engineer to sort it out. I think the band's only mistake was assuming bands often pull out of the Indie Initiative. In my experience, young bands virtually fight it out for a foot in the door and their name on a bill. Just my opinion. No disrespect and I'm happy to be told I'm wrong. I think it is healthy to talk about what is acceptable and not acceptable in this industry with our peers. Thoughts?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Yeahbourne 10 Jan 2007 13:57

Look this band should be permanantly disbarred for being pedantic, difficult and overly verbose. Does anyone think it's meant to be easy being the support band? I mean for God's sake - requesting to retune the PA while doing support at an indie initiative gig? It smacks of self-importance and no understanding of their station in life. Really talented bands do these gigs without complaint no matter how hard the circumstances, blow everyone else off the stage and win the hearts and minds of all. Indie initiative do an excellent job of giving often-average bands a decent first gig.

Also does anyone really want to know a band that uses "pusillanimous" in an email? Let your music and reputation create the self respect - Shut the fuck up and play</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


musicislove 10 Jan 2007 14:43

Yeah I understand that II offers new bands a good forum to cut their teeth. That's not in question. But as far as this band's behaviour goes, I just don't think they were being unreasonbable to want to use their own equipment correctly to put on a show. I even agree their tone 'smacks of self-importance', which is never an endearing trait, and it might explain why they came into trouble trying to get answers (I've always found the II crew more than willing to help out and really push botha show and a performance), but that doesn't mean their actual requests were unreasonable. In my opinion, while it shouldn't necessarily be easy being the support band, there's no need to make it hard on bands either. As far as understanding their station in life - correct me if I'm wrong, but the crowd is there to see all of the bands at an II, not just the main act. No disrespect, but it is not like the main acts at II's are well established artists, and as a result, I think all of the bands should be given similar respect. I agree, nothing speaks louder than a strong performance and at the end of the day, that's all anyone should care about. Just seems to me these guys haven't done much wrong other than use big words and expect to be treated with some professionalism. Again, I could be wrong. They could be total jerks. I don't even know them... I just think the letter is inconclusive, and if that is all there is to go on, they shouldn't be ridiculed. </title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


soundcheck 16 Jan 2007 17:25

Tell you what. I don't know who is the biggest tossa but I think the letter is winning. I hate going to gigs and hearing support acts that have sound issues because they can't touch most of the console or the eq. Programmable eq with memory is available so maybe it is time for venues to get their shit together and make a difference. Out of all this waste of time I don't know who the band is but at least know that their are musicians out there who take an interest in their front of house sound and for the posting of the letter to prove some bullshit point well I for one will give II a miss for my night out!</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


NeilWedd 16 Jan 2007 21:35

The postscript to changing the PA is that they retuned the PA at another venue and the PA company had to be called in to reset the PA up properly.
It's interesting that some people know who the band is and that they have had dealings with the band. Not a high opinion of the band.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


JungleJane 17 Jan 2007 15:14

Seems to me Neil that you have got mad
because a band has cancelled on you, which ordinarily, would be justifiable. But in this case, you failed to provide the band with what most of us would consider standard support, and not only that, when they wrote to politely inform you as to why they refused to play, you posted their letter on the net, like some sort of 14-year-old cyber-bully. While grammatically incorrect, it's
easy to cast doubt over someone by saying, "It's interesting that some people know who the band is and that they have had dealings with the
band. Not a high opinion of the band". But this doesn't prove your point. It just proves that you have gone out of your way to shitcan the band and find like-minded individuals to do the same. You're a real big man. It's safe to say "it's interesting that some people know who Neil
Wedd is and that they have had dealings with him. Not a high opinion of Neil Wedd". The guy is a bully in an industry where he struggles to
remain relevant.
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Jacket 17 Jan 2007 17:30

I don't know the band. I don't know Neil Wedd. But it seems to me that, no matter how poorly the band behaved (which is debatable in the first place), posting their letter on the internet is a far more immature and unprofessional action.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


NeilWedd 18 Jan 2007 18:21

The info was on the email sent to them.
Their was a new mixer and all he needed to do was check with the Greyhound.
I gave an opinion and got an onslaught.
I don't care that they cancelled, it's an inconvenience but it happens.
It was all the crap that went with it.
When people threaten to sue it annoys me.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


musicislove 18 Jan 2007 20:25

Fair enough. Threatening to sue over something so trivial is ridiculous. Where did they threaten to sue? In another email I take it? What were they threatening to sue over? Money for advertising they had already done?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


NeilWedd 19 Jan 2007 16:04

If I blackened their good name.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


soundcheck 20 Jan 2007 15:38

I tell you I would be looking to do something more pro active than sue if you were to blacken my name. Luckily you don't know it. For them to sue seems a mild threat in comparision to your own "no name and shame campaign". I tell you what Neil you have done I nice job of blackening your own name so you might wanna sue yourself and maybe while your at it kick your own arse. </title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


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