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Why the SBS 'Whatever series' is racist .

damon 19 Sep 2003 09:14

The SBS 'whatever series' is 'credible' talent contest calling for unsigned acts.
The requirement of entry is that "..you must have an ethnic background or play music with a particular cultural influence or be creating work in new musical genres..."

So what criteria is discounted then? Are we not all as Australians, culturally diverse and ethnic? I guess our Aboriginal brethren are eliminated straight off the bat for being born here?

Why would SBS practice 'positive discrimination' in a culturally diverse society like Australia?

"..Oh I'm sorry but you can't be eligable due to your Anglo-saxon blood?..."

Well excuse me Mr Hitler.......

Rather than practicing and preaching cultural harmony and understanding , SBS invert racism to exclude all those who do not fit into the 'SBS demographic'...

So kids, remember ...if you don't play with a sitar, or your mother's sister married a Canadian, or you indulge in blues scales.....forget it...you aren't ethnically diverse enough for the powers that be at SBS.

So tell us oh SBS, what musical style is not considered a 'cultural influence'?
Isn't rock from America which in turn absorbed Jazz and blues from Africa etc...

While it's nice to see different music forms getting attention, why punish and disclude those who don't fit into the SBS demographic.

You can just imagine the Powers that be at SBS sitting around the big round table arguing as to who's eligable and who isn't.

"..NAH..this bands no good, I can't here any bongo's...."

"..I'm afraid we can't allow this band as the drummer is too white.."

"..Nope, not this act...she's playing German Pop and that's the devil's music..'


SBS's antics smack of elitist racism, shame on SBS.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


stilborn 19 Sep 2003 12:14

yeah i gotta agree. i was pretty excited checking out the site and when it said that if not one, then the whole band has to have an ethnic background. i dont share the same anger as damon, but when people discriminate against racism, then they run a competition based on race, where is the fairness? if someone else, hypothetically, started a competion like that which excluded ethnics because of their race, then people would go apeshit.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Sukebe 19 Sep 2003 18:25

Yeh, I agree!! I mean, I DO see where they are coming from - they are the "cultural" tv station.. but I don't appreciate being excluded!! I never thought that SBS would exclude or divide people but I guess I was wrong? If it is all about the song (what musicians are constantly assured), who cares what color the person is playing, and who cares if they are playing a geetar or a seetar! On the up side - I am really looking forward to seeing the entrants..</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


paulraygun 19 Sep 2003 19:11

i thought the exact same thing.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


ZeddES 21 Sep 2003 11:46

hmmmmmmmmmm.............. I never knew about that criteria, and I am quite apalled. One question tho,... if "..you must have an ethnic background or play music with a particular cultural influence or be creating work in new musical genres..." how the fuck did 'Frost' end up on one of the whatever cd's, with their normal pop songs?????
Does this mean that because our guitarist is half italian,... we have a singer with a quarter greek,.... is that ethnic enough?!?!?! What about if I'm half English,.... ethnic enought for ya SBS???</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


tubescreamer 23 Sep 2003 14:35

We qualify
1/2 Welsh 1/2 English 1/2 Aboriginal bring it on we have no money is that a critera This is where OUR fuckin TAXES go to support Non-Australian music what a fuckin JOKE. I am contacting one of those piss ant shows like sunrise on channel 7 see if they run with it</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


tangy 23 Sep 2003 18:10

CORRECT - a classic case of reverse discrimmination.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


tangy 23 Sep 2003 18:24

however, after just looking at the SBS website, ther are three criteria : non english speaking backgrounds, particular cultural influence, OR creating music in a new musical genre. Great - they're looking for something old, something new, something borrowed... Begs the question - what exactly is the purpose if the whatever sessions?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


ChicoT 24 Sep 2003 11:26

Although it is arguable that the criteria of having an ethnic background could validly be argued as racist, I believe that this initiative can greatly benefit a lot of artists or bands that struggle to fit within particular genres and sectors of the music scene. This initiative could possibly be a great push for my band. As we fuse elements of punk rock, electronic, latino, metal, and european music this is exactly the type of opportunity we've been waiting for. And yes we are from different ethnic backgrounds and are proud to bring this influence and diversity into our music, because it is a part of who we are. For this reason we often struggle to fit on bills with other bands and venues and are excited to see an opportunity to highlight our own cultural individuality. Because in some ways we are often descriminated against for not being punk enough, or latino enough, or metal or whatever. So although yes you could say that the particular criteria to be eligible for the SBS Whatever sessions is racist in some respects, it gives some bands/artists like us one of those rare opportunities that the music industry does not accomodate for.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


TheNamesake 24 Sep 2003 13:58

Chico: Our band would play with you. No friggin worries.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


ChicoT 24 Sep 2003 18:26

Thanks namesake :)</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Macca 25 Sep 2003 12:53

It is wrong, but look at any of the government grants or the councils cultural planning, you can bet their not about preserving Holden Cars, cricket and meat pies.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Nova100 15 Oct 2003 20:44

Hey guys!!!!
I really have too disagree with all of you. "The SBS Whatever Sessions" is a fantastic CD consisting of Australia's finest bands.
It great to see ethnic Australian's getting a go!
My friend is Ethnic and he gets a really bad deal getting job and just a fair go.
I high recommend "the SBS WHatever Sessions" to everyone who loves music!</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


musiclover 16 Oct 2003 19:32

It sounds to me that someone is jealous that their music was not accepted by 'SBS'????
And Bands like, "Frost" aren't just another pop group. Most of their stuff I heard is like Radiohead's weird suff. I think that because Nova 100 plays that ballad song, which Frost wrote has put those boys in a niche that they really don't belong in.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


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