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baracho 11 Oct 2003 01:30

I really hope ecohowsyafather is joking. The Council is the most entertaining, clever and inovative band I have seen in a very long time. Not only should you see them as often as possible but you should strive to tap into their gene pool by having their children. The less than discerning individual who posted that remark may want to check out the Malboros, perhaps a little less challenging for your vapid soul.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


burncrew 2 Nov 2003 21:53

The Council are rocker than rock. Funny how people say that bands are shite for doing something a bit different. Piss off you closed minded music killers!</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


ecoanarchos 3 Nov 2003 23:56

The Council, Challanging? I think not. Please enlighten me as to how you reached this conclusion. Would I be safe in assuming you are a member of the band?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Gladys 5 Nov 2003 10:50

Hi ecoanarchos. Unfortunately you would not be safe in assuming that "burncrew" and "baracho" are in the band. But I am. I've got no need to blow my own trumpet anonymously, I am quite secure in my own existence. No worries if you don't like us or find us challenging that's completely cool. And no worries if you want to post something like... what was it
"WORST BAND: The Council, please avoid seeing them at all costs."
I actually find the attention quite flattering, albeit I am somewhat curious as to your motives, and slightly bemused as to the value of such a post.
Since you were allowed to make a blind assumption in your last post, can I be safe in assuming that I know you and have fallen out with you somewhere along the lines, or can you backup such a barefaced opinion as "WORST BAND: The Council" with reasonable argument and rational thought? Maybe you can tell me what a post like that is supposed to achieve?
Not that you have to.
I would find it interesting though.
And probably amusing.
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ecoanarchos 7 Nov 2003 10:21

I can 100% guarantee that I have never met you. I've only seen you play once, but no, I didn't take a liking to your music. 'avoid seeing them at all costs' was most certainly an overstatement, but thats generally what I do...overstate things.
Also, I don't really think your the worst band, just I know you have a following. At any rate my opinion of you guys is irrelevant, as you know people don't like Led Zepplin and the Mars Volta. Get what I'm saying?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Gladys 7 Nov 2003 10:51

sniff sniff .... smells like puppet to me.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Gladys 7 Nov 2003 10:56

Hey Baracho, Burncrew and Crofta - cheers for the encouraging words!

ecoanarchos - are you in a band?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Gladys 7 Nov 2003 11:02

Actually - ecoanarchos - email me offlist: thecouncil_hq@hotmail.com

I wouldnt mind know more about which gig you saw - I have a feeling there is more to your opinion than what you are letting on.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


ecoanarchos 7 Nov 2003 17:04

I saw you once at a pub in Fitzroy. You played with Puppetman and another band which were instrumental, I can't remember their name. That is the only time I've seen you and Puppetman, and no I can guarantee I am not in that band (I believe thats what you were insinuating), in fact I don't even know the members of that band as that was the only time I've ever heard them play also.
I am being strait down the line with you right now, one hundred percent honest. Are you and Puppetman not on good terms?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


baracho 7 Nov 2003 21:49

Gladys cleared up the fact that I am not in the band. Just wanted to point out that a band can be challenging in many ways. Try listening to the lyrics. Try focussing on the way that a two peice band generates as much energy and raw sound as any band around. Check out the clever syncopation of the vocals. consider the maudlin chaos of the song structure. If you have only seen one show perhaps you should give them another chance. Do you consider a broad based comment like "worst band" to be validated by your limited experience of their music? Like Gladys I am also interested to know if you are throwing stones from within the glasshouse or without.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


baracho 7 Nov 2003 21:53

ps: Perhaps you should "suck a vodka bitch drink" and check out The Council, Spidergoat Canyon and Dr Invisiablo at Good Morning captain on Saturday. Maybe you still wont like The Council but perhaps one of the other bands can win you over.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Maudrude 10 Nov 2003 09:47

Im out to get you baracho look out for the bitch slap
(runs on in Jerry Springer style from the wings and slaps bracho)</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Gladys 10 Nov 2003 09:52

Alright everyone. This is a public forum, and the value of this thread has become very limited. Any more discussion - please do it off site. My email address is attached above.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Maudrude 10 Nov 2003 10:05

shutup gladys wot kind of a name is that anyway (*slap*)</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


pharisee 11 Nov 2003 19:38

Managed to catch you guys at Pony a while back. You had some technical difficulties but the show was awesome. Hope to see more.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


JuniorT 17 Nov 2003 13:24

I've had the pleasure of experiencing THE COUNCIL several times now, and I've gotta say, I do indeed dig the sound, man! Keep the intensity coming guys.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Puppetman 7 Dec 2003 13:30

Wow, this is pretty intense. I was talk to Derek from Dr Invisiablo yesterday and he told me about this forum.

The lowdown:
We don't have any problems with the Council. Hey we're all booked by the same people, we should all support each other. Which is what we're 100% in favour of. Give us some flyers, we'll hand em out to our mates!

Which is why we got upset (not at the band) with the reception we got at the couple of gigs we played with the Council. We were just trying to express our art and message and first of all got calls to get off the stage and the next gig were given the ice treatment. It took us by surprise, as we thought we were playing some pretty cool rocking stuff which has a good social message.

I now know that the whole NZ crew was there and are very supportive of the NZ Bands - hey we understand the whole loyalty thing, but it felt pretty bad being on the other side of that loyalty. We're pretty easy-going guys and we don't really understand the "us and them" mentality - I mean we're all human hey, we're all on this planet to do what we have to and in all our cases its to make some music. All of our crew sat there and clapped and checked out the Council's whole set, because we understand how important it is to support each other in a scene thats already small and hard to get a foothold in.

So no problems here, I was hoping to have some beers with the guys at the Syndicate bbq and talk about comics (so Derek tells me, we're all cartoonists hey!) and put all this storm in a teacup to rest and hopefully the NZ crew realises we're all part of the same big musical family, come and rock out to our tunes and we'll bring heaps of our mates to rock out to the Council's!

"Life is very short and there's no time for fussing and fighting my friends" - The Beatles. There's enough other wankers out there in the music scene for us all to be concentrating on rather than each other.

So maybe it can be Take 2 next time, once we get up and running again (Pete and Ryan left because the Mavericks are getting busy) bring the crew along, sink some brews and enjoy some tunes because nobody has to be barracking for anyone, it's all music, it's all good!

Peace - Damien from Puppetman</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Puppetman 7 Dec 2003 13:36

And to put any speculation to rest, this is the first any of our band members have known about this forum....</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Gladys 11 Dec 2003 16:08

Hey Damien, thanks for posting. I guess it's a classic case of bad communication. I remember the reaction you got from the audience at the Cue Club gig, and we heard back that you (Puppetman) had complained about us because we were personally heckling you. Whether you did complain or not, this was not the case - we do not find it appropriate to heckle a band that we are playing with!! Any heckles or shouts from the audience most certainly did not come from us. Then at the Revolver show we seemed to get a very cold and almost hostile reaction from you (Puppetman) at the end of the night. Hence the conclusion being jumped at.

Im glad this is all sorted. You are completely right there is no need for rivalry in the music scene. And Im looking forward to this ultimately pointless and ugly thread drifting off these forums for good.

Good luck with finding new members.
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Puppetman 14 Dec 2003 13:30

Cool! Regarding the cold reception at the end of the night: my bro had his bag pinched with everything in it, including phone, wallet and schoolbooks! Nothing to do with you guys at all. We were pretty pissed that someone had just pinched his bag. Friggin Revolver!

It is true that we were upset about being heckled, but hey it was a misunderstanding, a miscommunication and we're sorry it went down this way.

We'd be really happy to put all this aside and move on, we've just got ourselves a new drummer and are still looking for that elusive bass player....

We'd love to have all the NZ crew on board as mates as we really don't give a toss about national borders or whatever - we're just another band making music and enjoying it.

Seeya later!</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


ThePlaceToBe 14 Dec 2003 18:27

I just read this very interesting thread, and my god, i can't believe the nerve of some people. Whatever happened to, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all? Some people just like to criticise for no reason whatsoever, apart from jealously perhaps. I saw THE COUNCIL at cupdaychaos and my friends and I were absolutely blown away. You guys still come up in conversation. Been scouring the net in hope of finding a website, but to no avail. Can anyone help me out?? Well, good to see so much support in here, clearly some of us aren't completely tone def. I look forward to seeing you again sometime! Don't make me wait too long, please... =)</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Gladys 15 Dec 2003 12:34

Damien - cheers mate - water under the bridge.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Gladys 15 Dec 2003 12:39

hey PlaceToBe, you can find the Council website at:

http://thecouncil.musicpage.com

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Gladys 15 Dec 2003 12:41

sorry, scrub that. the right address is:

http://www.thecouncil.rocks.it</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


pharisee 16 Dec 2003 23:01

I saw THE COUNCIL at cup day Chaos too. What was the name of the group of louts that screamed over the top of your last song ??? The Welsh something ?? And what about about that dude who flew through the room and jumped on stage for that song and then just ran out again. You guys are nuts.....That dude is nuts......can't get enough of it. Fucking awesome. Big ups to Baracho for starting this thread and thank god it has ended so graciously.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


ThePlaceToBe 7 Feb 2004 16:25

yet another beautifully amazing performance by the boys last night @ Duke. Congrats!

Any word as to upcoming dates??

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monkeyboy 8 Feb 2004 16:26

I love it when I see big happy Hollywood endings!
Yay for Puppetman and the Council.

Now get your asses down to THE ARMADALE HOTEL this SATURDAY 14th FEBRUARY 2004 for a big Valentines Sonic Group Hug where everyone is welcome to share the lurve!!

Playing are PUPPETMAN, VENA KAVA and ALPHA STATE for a night of LOVE LOVE LOVE..........Hows the serenity?

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