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re: klub:vhp gig NOT RIPPING ARTISTS OFF

noripoffs 11 Feb 2004 18:47

I just want to explain to all here that under no circumstance do we take the rights from artists who perform at our gig. This has been a terrible misunderstanding and we have updated our terms and conditions to explicitly clarify this. We did not want to charge a production cost or payment for performing at our gig. Of course we are taking a risk on this event having to pay the room hire, video hire, PA and stage hire, CD PR and mailouts and other costs. We only wanted to have the rights to broadcast clips from the show on our website we were not even wanting to broadcast the live performances because of APRA payments but instead we are making an enhanced CD of the show, featuring video clips which shall be on the same CD compilation 'So hot Down Under' this will increase the value of the CD to ensure it will sell online through all the retailer. The artist contributing tracks shall be doing this on a non exclusive basis and retain all rights. I am saddened by the fact that people did not contact us to discuss this instead resorting to smear tactics to discredit us. This is unfortunate. So I am making this plain to ALL NOW. CHECK THE T&C AND YOU WILL FIND THIS IS EXPLICITLY STATED. If you all support true independents then I trust you will recognize that as artists ourselves with our own original catalogue we have no business in taking others content. We are only a small act trying to get our own stuff out and want to team up with others doing the same.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


redletter 13 Feb 2004 12:54

Do NOT be swayed by the rhetoric above. Klub VHP is a scam. I attended the VHP's Singer/Songwriter conference at Mecury Lounge in 2003, excited by the notion of networking with some key industry representatives. No-one of significance attended. Worse still, no-one even cared to take a copy of my professioanlly recorded and pacakged demo. All i witnessed was a pathetic ensemble of scantily clad smack-whores, dancing and whining to Kenny's pop/dance trash (which amounted to badly sampled michael jackson beats and melodies). When I attempted to contact VHP to voice my outrage at their false adverstising, I received no reply. This organisation is not interested in independant bands, or solo artists and is certainly not to be trusted. Avoid VHP at all costs.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


noripoffs 13 Feb 2004 13:08

The singer/showcase seminar was not organised by vhp or anyone from vhp.
we were invited to speak and perform ourselves and that was it. It was organised by someone else.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


theface 13 Feb 2004 13:10

yeah, i went to this thing as well. where the fuck was molly meldrum as promised on MMM radio???
and if the VHP showcase that night indicates what's happening with this label...
talentless pop tarts need only apply.
and what was with that fat bastard telling us how wonderful his singing technique was?
this night was deplorable. shameless self-promotion. no networking possibilities at all.
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noripoffs 13 Feb 2004 13:20

Well the person who is culpable for this seminar is JBpromo management and not Vhp Records. Jbpromo organised this seminar and controlled it.

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theface 13 Feb 2004 13:43

regardless... your music is shite. you just looked liked you were exploiting young girls. your battle of the band project seems to be similarly exploitative. nothing that i saw that night resembled a dedication to australian independant bands. stick with indie initiative, not this ridiculous excuse for a production company. stop polluting the scene and this forum.
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noripoffs 13 Feb 2004 13:59

You dont have to like my music thats your perogative. I dont have to like your music either. Let's not be cultural Nazis there is room for all types of music. However get your facts right before you post something on a message board. It is careless talk like this that gets message boards shut down. Why can't people have a reasoned and sensible debate on issues or is that too much to ask. Or maybe we need a moderator to police the language.
By the way we are not running a battle of the bands at Seven so get your facts correct.
I'm sure if you had your way all music other than what you liked would be banned would it ??

Are you saying that Independent music = band music ? or Rock ?
I think there is room for all types of music, however that is not what this is about. Before you slander anyone get the facts correct because you could be barking up the wrong tree and..libelling someone.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


MemphisNight 1 Mar 2004 17:01

I was at this seminar also. It was a scam. I remembered telling a few young people that I knew some one in the industry just so they could pass their demo to SOMEONE.
They were very upset and, as a muso myself, I knew how they felt.
The thing cost about $70.

I've already gone a few rounds about this topic in another forum, where VHP replied telling me the same story they are saying here.

I took their word for it and left it at that.

But now (in here) I see they are doing something else that is suspect.

All I can say is simply keep away from anything that they do (if they can change their contract then why can't they refund everybodies $70).

Too many lies VHP. Too many lies.

Now that you know us Aussies are not nieve and actually CAN catch you out, maybe it's time to head back to the UK.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


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