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KGrammer 18 Feb 2005 17:51

A question to all who receive Neil's newsletter:
Fact - Neil co-manages 'British India'
Fact - Neil writes the indieinitiative.com newsletter
Fact - Most receivers of the newsletter know these two facts

Question - What is your opinion on their constant mention in the newsletter? Does it annoy you or intrigue you?

Just to make my position clear - it annoys me. I've never seen the band, though I think their name is cool and I might as some stage check them out. Also, as both a musician and journalist, I don't mind occasionally using your position to promote something - I'm not a conflict-of-interest Nazi. But, Neil's handling seems like overkill - it makes me NEVER want to see the band, and from a marketing perspective position myself against them.

Anyway, make sure no comments are about the band itself, because I have nothing against them and I'm not trying to start a hate campaign against anyone.

Let's see what you think!
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sammm 19 Feb 2005 12:41

agreed. completely uneccesarry</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


sam2can 19 Feb 2005 13:17

Yes Yes Yes!!!! That's what I think everytime I get the II newsletter. I thought the II was about promoting up and coming new bands and not an avenue for Neil to promote his own band. How about supporting bands in the II and promoting some of our big gigs and launches thru the II news letter so that bands other that British India can get a bit of a name. Then maybe more people will support the II and go to the II gigs....I guess that's why British India are getting some great supports such as The Hoodoo Gurus, The Living End and Grinspoon!!!</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


felafelking 19 Feb 2005 14:26

Lock it in Eddie- sounds a bit familiar- i hate COllingwood too....</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


rawkbeat 19 Feb 2005 15:12

The only time I saw a band that Neil had talked up on his newsletters the hype did the band no good. He had said that they were "Simply amazing and unmissable" They were actually quite average. After that it was time to type "remove" in the subject line.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Firebirds 19 Feb 2005 17:29

I was starting to think this was the British india homepage!
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bonbon 19 Feb 2005 18:53

I like the idea of bands having their launch details featured in large blue font on the newsletter.... but the fact of the matter is that it seems to be ONLY British India that are getting added attention rather than Indie Initiative bands who are slogging it out.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


NeilWedd 19 Feb 2005 19:18

Thanks for the heads up on this.
I could get on my high horse.
I could eat humble pie and do as you ask.
But I think I will keep promoting things.
I keep promoting all sorts of bands, but why not use the power I have.
For your information the band gets gigs offered to them, I don't have to chase them. If they didn't perform well they wouldn't get another gig.
But happy to hear peoples thoughts.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


johnnyrock 20 Feb 2005 13:38

do you mean by "use the power i have" as bands wanting to promote gigs through the newsletter could?? i think that would be a great idea if you wanted to do that. you could charge a small amount to do it over a week of newsletters or something. you could even have something in conjunction with inpress advertising. get a 1/4 page ad, pbs radio gig guide announcing and emailed newsletter to however many thousand people are on your mailout, for one low price.

hhhhmmmm

i'd pay for it and i'd love to see it. rather than just delete the email and check the website i could get some info right away about what bands are doing the work and getting themselves out there.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


NeilWedd 20 Feb 2005 14:22

Of course you can buy advertsing on the newsletter or the website.
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Northerly 20 Feb 2005 16:01

I think British India are a really good band and Neil should be allowed to promote them here considering the amount of work he puts in to the Indie Initiative. If he genuinely likes another band, he promotes them as well like Luke for eg. They are a kickass band and maybe half the reason they are getting some cool gigs like the Espy front bar is probebly through Neils promotion... Bands like these can probebly teach other bands getting around a thing or two as well and checking them out on Neils recommendation is not a bad thing... Anyways, the tricky thing is to get noticed and get some promotion from guys like Neil and if British India are lucky enough then so be it.
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KGrammer 20 Feb 2005 18:07

The issue was not should Neil be allowed to promote his band... it is his site and newsletter and he is free to do what he wants.

But from a reader's perspective, do you think his mentioning British India in seemingly every newsletter is helping or hurting the band?

In other words, is this element of his marketing strategy a sound one?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Wilko74 20 Feb 2005 19:04

What im about to say might piss alot of people off... mainly because it might hit a few home truths. But i have found this website to be of little service to bands who are looking for help. Sure your job is hard Neil and your time is limited but i just get a vibe that if your band doesnt either sound, look or have a name like "JET" then your chances of getting help from Neil are rather small. Sorry but i think that variety is the spice of life and there isnt enough of it. Over my time ive sent a good 15 emails to neil questioning gigs or what he thought of my bands demo but replies where no-where to be seen. On the rare occasions that he did reply the emails gave me no peice of mind as to where i stood. A simple 'we cant fit you on the bill so stop trying' would be suffice enough for me. If your sound is rip off rock then your set</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


sam2can 20 Feb 2005 19:05

I believe that it is hurting the band! For the same reason people cringe everytime they hear stairway to heavan being played on a guitar in a music store.

The name British India may become taboo even though they may be a good band.

People may avoid them because they'll say "Isn't that Neil's band thats on every newsletter"</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


sam2can 20 Feb 2005 19:21

Hey Northerly, Stick to the topic!

This forum is not about whether or not British India are good or not!!

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NeilWedd 20 Feb 2005 22:19

Obviously you don't come to enough II gigs if you think everybody needs to sound like Jet to succeed or for me to like the band.
I presume you promote your band if you send an email out to your audience? Do people get sick of that?
If British India or The Vasco Era or Degrees.k succeed because of the promotion from the II then that reflects on every band that takes part.
My recommendation can help a band get more gigs. Thats the reason I do the II.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


NeilWedd 20 Feb 2005 22:23

If you promote something long enough and people like it then the message sticks. If you promote something that has no resonance then it will fail.
I would like to see all of you come to the II sometime and support the bands. Then you would see that we have a rich selection of bands.
Sure I like and understand rock bands but I love the Vasco Era, Late Nite Access and lots of different sorts of bands.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Northerly 21 Feb 2005 23:32

Didnt mean to get a bit off topic and wasn't tying to 'suck up' as such. It doesnt annoy me that they are always in the newsletter - its Neils newsletter. It should not affect if you like the band or not. It should make bands want to work harder to try get that recognition. Go and check out the band and see why they are always in there. They have a lot to offer and like I said can teach other bands a thing or two. Maybe Neil could feature a few different bands in each newsletter as well as British India though considering the broad range of indie acts that use this site.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


KGrammer 22 Feb 2005 11:32

Perhaps it should not, but it does. It's like hearing a decent song played to death on radio - it does effect your attitude toward the song, in the same way I would suggest it might happen with Neil's promotion of 'British India'.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


pacifier 22 Feb 2005 12:36

I must say i did notice the newsletter did have some posative references to BI... They went to the back of my mind and i didnt think much more of it...

After reading this entertaining if not sometimes kooky thread however i cant stop thinking about them...Its like the name British India is burned into my Brain! Who are British India, what do they sound like, when are they playing next, do they have a record? Its all i can think of!!!!

Are youse sure this is not just a phony post uesd to promote British India?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


KGrammer 22 Feb 2005 12:49

Funnily enough, your posting seems the most 'phoney'... "Who are British India, what do they sound like, when are they playing next, do they have a record? Its all i can think of!!!!"

How convenient. Or as Kerry O'Brien would say, "Hmm..."
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pacifier 22 Feb 2005 13:35

If you must know my name is mick vassallo and im from a band called 'the christinas' www.thechristinas.com

This isnt a setup post, im pointing out how stupid and pointless your whining is. And if you dont like this forum or this website or whatever why dont you piss off and start your own... You could call it the 'indie incentive' or somthing : )

*PLUG/Derogatory Challenge*
My band is playing at the end of march (come check the gig guide) you can come along and see just how real i am biatch!</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


sam2can 22 Feb 2005 13:47

I have actually been to a few of II's and I think that alot of great bands have played there. But they don't necessarily get the good reviews. It's seems the bands that get positive reviews are generally bands that are rock based.

There seems to be a shitload of band that look and sound like Jet.!!

I also go and see live music all over Melbourne and itís the same faces watching the same kind of Aussies rock. No wonder there are no new faces! I Have noticed that when a band comes along that doesnít fit the mould of and aussie rock band they are frowned upon.

I don't think that can be very good for the Australian music industry!

Are these bands selling any albums of getting into the charts?

Donít get me wrong I love rock. Most of my Cd collection is guitar based rock. But rock has so many different varieties. But australian rock is very much meat and two veg!
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KGrammer 22 Feb 2005 14:13

Pacifier, I will not humour your response, other than to say I will not be attending one or any of your shows.

A note to those who responded to the original question: thank you to those who answered the question and did not criticise BI or Neil personally as that wasn't the intent. Those of you that used it as an excuse to plug your band, suck up to Neil or just didn't even read the question before responding, needless to say "you'll never make it".</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


pacifier 22 Feb 2005 14:22

>Pacifier, I will not humour your response, other than to say I will not be attending one or any of your shows.

damn, looks like targeting the wanker demographic aint gonna work... back to the drawing board!

>A note to those who responded to the original question: thank you to those who answered the question and did not criticise BI or Neil personally as that wasn't the intent. Those of you that used it as an excuse to plug your band, suck up to Neil or just didn't even read the question before responding, needless to say "you'll never make it".

as opposed to you whos gonna be some shit hot rockstar!

Pointing out the Neil Wedd British india connection is an attack wether you wanna admit it or not! you cant go all media watch on his ass and then say its not personal... And why are you still posting? i thought you were starting your own website : )</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


MrLoud 22 Feb 2005 15:01

KGrammer, Neil runs a business - which ever way you look at it. His intentions appear genuine, and sticks his neck out every so often to push a band.
As stated b4, he can do whatever he likes and he has the tools, ability and know how to do it. If I was BI and he wasn't pushin us, you'd have to pull him aside for to kick some managerial ass.
If Neil was co managing my band - he'd be doin the same - (he'd better).
As long as the II site doesn't get redirected to a BI site, I don't think there is a problem.
I don't think there is any conflict of interest or whatever you were trying to 'not make personal' in your rant.
Neil probaby gets excited from time to time about certain bands (which shall remain nameless), but do you see any other fucker doing what Neil does at the indie level in this dog fuck dog industry?
It's Business - remember that boy.

Unsubscribe if it annoys you too much.
As far as the 'you'll never make it' comment - Grow up emo boy.

PS: I am not blowing sunshine either - just observations made via dealing with him personally.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


KGrammer 22 Feb 2005 15:05

Wanna get dirty 'Mick Vassalino'?

1. Despite your website's lengthy explanation, why bother changing your name from 'The Christinas' to 'Pacifier' - I wouldn't worry about getting sued as your website suggests, concern yourself with how stupid it sounds to use the name of a pre-existing band. No record company, manager or booking agent will take you seriously.

2. Your website is woeful. Maybe you could take a few hints from this one - less=more.

3. Making an observation on the marketing strategy of an indie band like British India is not stupid, it's not whining and it's not personal - perhaps if you understood the importance of this, as I know Neil Wedd does, you would not have made such a simple response. Then again, it's likely you were born that way.

4. Pay a photographer. Setting up the camera on timer in the corner of your school canteen, then quickly jumping up to beat the 60 second delay is not the way to get good shots.

5. Pay a publicist, don't try and communicate with the public using Pidgin English.

6. I am content to wait until I am that shit-hot rockstar to give you the sweet ironic beating you deserve, Mick. Don't think you can be a dumbass and get away with it.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


KGrammer 22 Feb 2005 15:15

Thanks also, MrLoud...

I agree with you, and if you went back to my original question, and the following posting I made, it reads clearly that:
"The issue was not should Neil be allowed to promote his band... it is his site and newsletter and he is free to do what he wants."

The point was to see how other people perceived it, not to push anyone's agenda. Unfortunately, people cannot help but confuse observations with attacks - it usually stems from them not taking in what has been said in previous posts.

Just to further clarify my position on Neil: good job, doing a fine service for some Melbourne bands, and I am sure BI is thrilled to have you on board. If you did some research MrLoud, there are a handful of people doing similar things around Australia, but that does not take away from Neil's efforts.

Though I am disappointed that you have to refer to people as 'boys' as if you were some redneck from the Southern States of the US talking to his black slave. Growing up entails treating learning to treat people with respect.
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pacifier 22 Feb 2005 15:16

hey KGrammer,

thanks for taking the time to read my website! And for giving my crummy website a plug, as we have learned theres no such thing as bad publicity! and you even mentioned my name (yay)

best of luck with your career, if you do become a shit hot rock star i wish you well : )

man ive really gotta get allong and see that british india by the way, my curiosity is totally getting the better of me!

sorry to everyone who had to read our bickering too, to save forum space people can write me abuse straight to tenaciousmick@gmail.com

party on,

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KGrammer 22 Feb 2005 15:33

Well spoken Pacifier, and a good-humoured response. Good luck with your career, but your website still sucks and you need some much better photos and publicity.

That said, you probably don't care cos all you wanna do is rock. Which is fine my me.

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pacifier 22 Feb 2005 15:48

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MrLoud 22 Feb 2005 15:50

Don't be disappointed - you know what they say about assumption.
Me calling you boy has nothing to with some redneck hick and his slave. Again, assumption. WTF?
Anyway....

And, as far as not getting personal... you did a good job on Pacifier.

For the record.................. No it is not hurting BI.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


system 22 Feb 2005 15:52

Two words.


Streetkid Vandal....

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ItsOnlyRnR 22 Feb 2005 18:33

Third word:
Suck.....

or

rule?
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NeilWedd 22 Feb 2005 19:21

Streetkid Vandal. Great band, poor attitude from some members.
British India play at Monash Uni tomorrow at midday. Just had to promote that.
I hope that people are supporting the AMW in Melbourne this week.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


sammm 22 Feb 2005 19:30

british india are the biggest oxymoron of a band ive ever come into contact with.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


JuniorT 22 Feb 2005 22:56

STREETKID VANDAL
The Green Room, City.
Wednesday 23 Feb
http://www.streetkidvandal.com









R.I.P.
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MrLoud 25 Feb 2005 13:55

Well Done Junior T - Spam away, it is obviously encouraged around here.



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MrLoud 25 Feb 2005 13:57

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KGrammer 25 Feb 2005 18:17

See now Neil has a right to promote British India on his newsletter/site, but JuniorTBurgerWhatEver - keep your blatant self-promotion to a post in which it is relevant.

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brill860 27 Feb 2005 18:19

im in a band thats been going for about 1yr. weve only done a handfull of gigs (one at II which was fun). the other day we sent our disc into Triple J. within a week we have been put on radio a couple of times, then we were on Kinsmills show, and a week later we were asked for an interview with Caroline Tran. we have now been put on the main playlist, and triple J has aked us for more tracks.

Have brit india been on the radio? ive heard a lot about them and im interested to hear them. and theres a lot of hype about them.... and they do a lot of gigs- so i thought it would be easy for them to get on radio. but in saying that is triple j any good? ( im from overseas and i dont listen to much radio) and have they been on before. i understand jjj is a national radio station i would of thought it would be top of the list for a upcoming band?
i might be talking bollocks?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


NeilWedd 4 Mar 2005 17:42

We haven't released anything to radio yet. The tracks are recorded and we will release a vinyl single in May. Biding our time. Come down and see why they are rated highly. Every Wednesday in March at the Duke.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


system 4 Mar 2005 17:47

We??....lol

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sam2can 4 Mar 2005 22:38

yeah We!!!! Neils the groopy!</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


elretardo 7 Mar 2005 15:02

geez, there's a bita local rock angst, why don't you all spend less time worrying about other bands and just get to practicing yourself. at the end of the day it aint gonna be one thing that seends a band to the top, and even if they get there what are you gonna do about it really...........i think everyone should just chill and focus on things they can change, not what other people are doing, cause at the end of the day we're in it for music aren't we?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


sammm 7 Mar 2005 22:00

youre all fucks. except the people against british india
you guys arent said fucks
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sammm 8 Mar 2005 14:42

i retract some but little of that statement
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themember 8 Mar 2005 16:07

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Newman 9 Mar 2005 11:42

What's the problem here? If Neil wants to co-manage a band let the guy do it.

I can't believe their are people out their who think they have the right to tell Neil what he can and can't do with his life...

Just remember anyone can start their own music web site and co-manage a band at the same time.

If your a jealous muso having a cry, I suggest you get off your lazy ass and start doing something about it, rather then resorting to this pathetic display of self pity.

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system 9 Mar 2005 12:12

hehe...I'm still laughing over the 'we' comment....</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


NeilWedd 9 Mar 2005 12:42

I used the "we" because the whole process involves us making choices. The band record and make the music and I work out how to market it. We work out the best way to do things.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


system 9 Mar 2005 13:37

LOL....iv'e got tears in my eyes!!
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system 9 Mar 2005 13:40

...but seriously though..
what on earth is going to happen to 'we' when you dig up an even more enticing proposition at the Indie Initiative?


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littlewing 14 Mar 2005 11:14

brill860 - who's your band?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


sam2can 14 Mar 2005 13:26

I think the II is a great thing for Melbourne and the new direction is awesome.

Whether or not Neil is hurting BI is debatable. And yes it is Neils web site and he can do anything he wants with it. He can even put naked chicks on the home page. But how does that help any band?

I think this web site looses a lot of credibility due to the fact that BIís add for the Duke gigs is on top of the ďJager UprisingĒ add, which is supposed to be one of the biggest things that has happened to the II.

I think this space should be used to promote bands that are upcoming acts in the II. Sure all the upcoming musoís will log onto this site and chat on the Forum. But for this site to be taken seriously by the industry as a source of valuable information about II bands, the main focus should be the bands, and not and avenue to promote BI.

This is what is called conflict of interest.

After all isnít this the II website
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NeilWedd 14 Mar 2005 21:07

Get your own site, spend five years building it up and then rail against me all you like. If I hurt the band I'm sure I'll hear about it.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


juiceterry 16 Mar 2005 03:41

Yeah. Fuck. Indie Initiative don't cost you people anything. Take the gigs and stop being so neurotic. If you're band isn't doing anything outside of Indie Initiative then you've got no hope anyway.

KGrammer, this started out as a good thread, but like all others, its been woven into a straitjacket. For the record, I think the only danger of Neil's management for British India is that the band may forever be stuck an Indie Initiative band. But Neil's a smart man, and its obvious that he is looking to establish them in "the real world".</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


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