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Indie Initiative to change to Jager Uprising. Thursdays to move to the Evelyn

NeilWedd 10 Mar 2005 17:37

The INDIE INITIATIVE has been a cornerstone for new and emerging bands in Victoria for five years.
The program has been the envy of other states and even internationally and many bands and music business people have asked about it coming to their state.
Dan Hennessy (Shihad’s manager, ex WEA A&R) approached us about running a version of the event in Sydney. That lead to Adam Zammitt from Peer Group Media coming aboard and finding Jagermeister as a brand that can further the work we have done. Jagermeister has a long history in the US of being involved with music and they see developing bands as the way to go in Australia.
The involvement of Jager allows the INDIE INITIATIVE crew to develop what we have done and take it to a whole new level.

Jager will give opportunities for bands to
1) Get a profile in their home state (Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane in 2005)
2) To tour other states and play at Jager events
3) To play with higher profile bands
4) To get education on making it in the music business
5) Win a special scholarship

and more.

This is too good an opportunity for us to let go.
It is not something done lightly and getting someone else involved always changes things.
All the features of the INDIE INITIATIVE site will continue but we will be able to offer much more promotion for bands in the future. We will make www.jageruprising.com the site for info about the Australian music scene.

The Thursday night shows will move from Revolver to The Evelyn starting on Thursday March 31. Moving to the Evelyn will enable us to work both sides of the river. This will mean that it will be easier for northside bands to pull a crowd.
We would like to thank Revolver for their support over the last year. To Kari, Sarah and Lia for helping to promote the shows. To the tech staff for helping with the webcasts and to Anya for doing the lights. You have really helped the Indie Initiative and made it reach new heights.

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Mattt 10 Mar 2005 18:04

Nice work Neil.
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KGrammer 10 Mar 2005 18:40

Yes, congratulations on securing this deal Neil - but 'Jager Uprising'? Erggh.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


sammm 11 Mar 2005 13:14

this isnt a stab, but will you be choosing a wider variety of bands now? or does jager have anything to do with the selection of bands?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


NeilWedd 11 Mar 2005 14:07

What do you mean by wider range. Eskimo bands or more metal or what.
We have a fair cross section, but it depends on what we get sent. We would expect to have more high profile bands playing and looking forward to seeing more bands come down to support the event. I would certainly like to see a wider range of bands come down to support the event.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


sammm 11 Mar 2005 19:04

yes. well that didn't really answer my question at all.

if jager has anything to do with selecting the bands then i'll send in an e.p, but if its all you i may as well not bother. i dont think im quite pretty enough.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


NeilWedd 11 Mar 2005 19:29

I pick the bands in Melb, Dan Hennessy in Syd, Angie Fraser PArle in Bris. Why wouldJager pick them?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


sammm 11 Mar 2005 19:48

ohhh i get it now. i thought it was jagers idea and you hijacked it. but it appears that jager are sponsors?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


beachball 11 Mar 2005 20:35

Hey Sammm don't take it so hard, JagerM wants you the youth of Oz to think about drinkin' their product, they don't give a fat rats what you sound like.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


sammm 11 Mar 2005 21:22

jagers alright.
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Mitch04 11 Mar 2005 22:54

I just hope the bigger sponsor doesn't mean the heart and soul of the II comes as a price. I'm worried that the "more high profile bands" comment will result in the reason the II was started disappearing.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


littlewing 12 Mar 2005 11:28

sounds great Neil!!! Well done!!!

is it worth bands who've previously played II to get involved?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


NeilWedd 12 Mar 2005 19:26

We want all bands to come down. We are trying to get bands to support the idea. Some people do but we need your support. It should be seen as a place to network with your peers. We support bands and would like to see that support returned. Opportunities are being made for you but its up to you to make the most of it. Yes we will see more high profile bands but by coming down you place yourself with the opportunity to get a gig, show your wares and hopefully get some publicity.
Faux rock? Is that your band?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


sammm 13 Mar 2005 13:30

no i believe its the anti revolutionary movement you're the general of neil.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


KGrammer 13 Mar 2005 14:09

Sammm I think you're taking this business a bit too personally. Neil is just a guy doing what he can - he's not a god, and neither does he claim to be.

We all have bias which can sometimes become a weakness - who knows, maybe one day Neil will regret not having recognised your band's greatness.

But, hey, he's not the be-all-and-end-all of the music industry, so you should avoid taking out your frustration from lack of recognition on him.

However, as a keen reader and fan of Neil's unique bullet-style reviews, I'm getting a bit impatient waiting for Thursday's to appear...</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


sammm 13 Mar 2005 21:26

my opinion has nothing to do with being in a band or not. its as a music consumer more than anything.
im so sick of these bands that take influence from bands like the beatles, the rolling stones, the byrds etc..those bands were about revolution, they had nor wnated nothing to do with the past. it seems that the bands trying to replicate them are doing them a huge injustice. fucking denhim oxymorons</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


MasterB8 13 Mar 2005 21:58

so don't buy their music if it upsets you from a consumer standpoint. i don't think you are going to change the selection at your local music store by ranting here. and if the surviving members of those bands have a problem with young melbourne musicians emulating their sound and soiling their revolutionary legacy 50 years on, let them post their own opinions for themselves. lets face facts, you are pissed your style of music isn't neil's soup of the day. so what? like someone else said, he isn't the be-all-and-end-all. if it upsets you so much, start your own revolution with the style of your choice. god knows you won't be starting it by wasting your energy pissing and moaning about your competition. if i was you, i would completely ignore the ii and find like-minded musos and be content that you are doing something you are passionate about. works for me.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


sammm 14 Mar 2005 02:27

im more than content iwth what i do.

someone needs to speak out against this shit..is this a discussion board or a witch hunt?
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sam2can 14 Mar 2005 13:46

Tour's are flopping and people people aren't going to live gigs and festivals like they used too, because there are so many shit bands playing on these bills. The entertainment factor is irrelevant these days. It's all about who you know.

The majors a shedding artist because they are shit and are not selling albums or packing gigs. All these sixties band clones are boring. Do you have so sound like someone else these day to make it. eg

Wolfmother - black sabbath
jet - beatles, stones, ac-dc
maedar - ac-dc
the casanovas – ac-dc
the list goes on.

They are scruffy looking people who have absalutely no originality. They never sing in Key and can barely play there intruments. Listen to the bands that they have ripped off and you will hear great playing by musicians.
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MasterB8 14 Mar 2005 15:05

If you were content with what you do, then you wouldn't waste your time complaining about the state of things in a tiny forum like this. Like you said, this is a discussion board, which is why I shared my opinion on your stance, you knobshine. So here's some more of my opinion sammm; yeah, the current music out there at the moment is a blatant rip-off of music gone-by. Like you, I won't be buying any of it. But unlike you, I won't be losing sleep over it or attacking every other muso in sight. Instead I spend my days recording music that is more to my liking, and in my own opinion, 'better' - simple as that. And unlike you, I won't end up a sad old 'could've-been', pissing and moaning to anyone willing to stop and listen to your dribble. If it upsets you so much, take a voluntary job with Beat and go and review bands you like. Or write something worth listening to, and get it out there. And don't tell me you can't get it out there because the airways are full of retro rock. That is the same mentality that got Pauline Hanson votes, you poser artist.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


littlewing 14 Mar 2005 15:10

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beachball 14 Mar 2005 15:34

Looking at the Melbourne scene this last year I'd have to say it's peaked and we're on the down slide. Which ain't a bad thing, a chance for a fresh start and some new talent to have the space to thrive and create. I think too many sheep have been shorn and alot of Melbournes young R&R fodder have gone back to school, footy, the beach or the public bar to get on with more important things.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


sammm 14 Mar 2005 15:36

fuck me. havn't even reached my 21st and im a coulda been.
loooooooook masterb8 if we all just sit here and play happy fucking families then this shit the music industry is cramming down our throat won't go away. if people don't speak out against these triple mmm listenin', dangerfield wearin', sport lovin' faux rock jocks then they're simply going to consume us all..like in that war of the worlds book. y'know what im sayin' biiiatchhh?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Badge 14 Mar 2005 15:47

I think it's a great idea. Two sides of the river. if we play at revolver we'll get a totally different crowd than if we play at the evelyn.

The three newer bands on a night and a bigger band to headline is good as there is more incentive for people to come along and see the bands. Neil's obviously trying to get people to do more networking.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


MasterB8 14 Mar 2005 16:27

Sorry champ, but that triple m audience is sadly a majority, and as much as you would like to be the second coming of the next cultural revolution (using only the means of a lightly used online forum), it isn't going to happen. I think your panic shows your age. This shit moves in cycles sammm, just like grunge in the nineties. And those 'faux' rock fans that you hate, are the ones turning up to gigs to support II, so stop blaming them for your lack of success. Seriously, who gives a fuck if someone is 'sport-lovin'? Who the fuck are you to judge someone else. If I was 'one of them', I would call you the loser drug-fuck who spent too much time alone in school (or should I say 'spends'). How accurate was I? Probably about as accurate as you were. And by the way ignoramous, the people of earth survived in War of the Worlds because the aliens choked on the foreign bacteria... you did finish it right? So it seems this apocalypse that Neil is supposedly the General of, is not such a threat afterall. Pull yourself together man! Put some of this energy into developing your trade and maybe you will suprise us all and end up a 'has-been' instead. You can only hope!
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sammm 14 Mar 2005 20:24

hhahahahaha.
my lack of success.
hahahhahhah. yes. foreign bacteria. that being good music. i don't just use this internet forum as a soapbox. everywhere i go i spread foreign bacteria. i'd reply to the rest of your points but i only skimmed through the hogwash!</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Zoquo 15 Mar 2005 09:28

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pipefitter 15 Mar 2005 15:28

This is a great step for the indie initiative. Its great for promotion for one, and also makes the option of seeing independent bands more attractive. And also greater networking for interstate. All round this sounds like an excellent idea. Tho its a shame to see revovler go as a venue, one of the best rooms in melb.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


MasterB8 15 Mar 2005 16:27

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sammm 15 Mar 2005 19:07

geeeez..nothing gets past you. i said i dont just use this forum as a soapbox, its one among many. i love soapboxes, asshat.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


MasterB8 15 Mar 2005 19:16

Sorry, my mistake. I guess I have trouble finding a coherent or consistant message in the bullshit you post. As long as your happy, please continue to waste everones time with your self-absorbed, logic-free 'theories'. Power to you numbskull!!!</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


sammm 16 Mar 2005 22:02

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jedda 18 Mar 2005 14:04

I know very little about the indie initiative.Does the indie initiative receive grant money from anywhere? (even though there are sponsers involved) It seems like it could or should be able to apply for one of the Arts Victoria categories. Couldn't sponsers be seen as 'in kind donations'. Do bands receive any guarantee on the night or is it a door deal? If there are interstate touring possibilities with this new concept of larger corporate sponsers, will selected bands be paying and organising their own travel costs? Grant cash could be used for this purpose...if eligable (is that how u spell elidgable).</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


jedda 18 Mar 2005 14:09

Contemporary Music Sector Development Grant, is the one I was thinking of.
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beachball 20 Mar 2005 13:41

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