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NeilWedd 17 May 2005 21:58

I just did the Jager Uprising talk to bands playing next month and asked the Question "Who goes to a gig a week" and five people out 30 put their hands up.
How can bands expect to progress if they don't network.
Do you people care at all?</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


ITCITY 18 May 2005 09:10

Agreed Roddy. I find it hard not to go out without seeing some type of live music. Even if I haven't planned it, I still usually end up somewhere with live music. That being said, some people's lives are very hectic and it's not always possible to go once a week. I'd say 1 gig every2 weeks is probably more sustainable for most.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Jemwitch 18 May 2005 09:19

I go to at least one a wekk and play at least one a week.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


ITCITY 18 May 2005 11:48

It's unfortunate that so many people ARE using the "I'm to busy" approach for not going to see live gigs. This is definetely what's turning musical institutions around Melb into apartments or crappy restaurants. I also work Full-Time, practice 3 times a week etc and I just love going out to watch live music!

Nothing better.....</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


littlewing 18 May 2005 13:59

i go to at least one gig a week, i've seen a lot of shiet bands, waited around for gigs that never start on time, been fucked around by venues who tell you bullshit start time to get punters in early... and paid more than what some bands are worth...

i've also seen a lot of bands getting exactly what they deserve!

seeing regular gigs about bands that have been getting press is a good way to gauge whether what you hear about a band lives up to it.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


QsilentQueu 18 May 2005 16:43

Um, Neil, I suspect you just want more "bands to go to gigs" so you get paid more. After all, most band members also work "really hard" just to get to play, but they don't get paid. How about trying to promote bands to non-players - not just bands?
Networking is one thing - seeing dozens of crappy bands when you could be practicing or writing is another.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


KrisBasics 18 May 2005 18:10

Sorry QsilentQueu I couldn't disagree more. Jager Uprising and the work Neil Wedd (and Ben and Angie) are doing is about trying to construct a community of bands and musicians - it's not about giving us a free ticket to success or marketing to the outside world. Bands are meant to, and should be, doing this themselves.

In my experience as a player and songwriter, going out to see bands never impacted on 'practising' or my 'writing'. Everyone is different, but God help anyone that needs every hour of every day to ensure they can rock and roll. As for writing - it's about inspiration; again, if you find you a labouring night after night to get some songs together, I would suggest this isn't the way to go about it.

Hey, if you don't want to go out and see bands because it takes time away from your insular existence of chasing perfection, that's fine. Just let us know what band you play for and we'll all do our best to make sure you enjoy the room to yourself.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


ChicoT 18 May 2005 19:23

I love seeing bands, I work full time, rehearse a few times a week, play gigs and still check out bands at least twice a week. I love it, beats watching tv, or going to watch hollywood shit at hoyts, I get to socialise a lot with it too. There are a lot of different genre scenes, check out the hipo hop scene, or metal, or rock, or emo, it's always a fun checking out a scene and bands tht you may consider the style you ussually check out. Also q I don't think its fair to hang shit on Neil about encouraging people to see bands, I don't think hes in the business to be a millionaire, after you work in the music industry for so long especially in Australia, that's not a realistic goal, the real goal is the love for the music and that's what someone like Neil seems like he's genuinely about, maybe I'm wrong, hang shit on me if you like, I don't care, but Neil has only been supporting Indie Bands and that has been a really positive thing :)
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felafelking 18 May 2005 19:29

1. $$$$$$$$$$$$$. If we could go and see bands with out feeling obliged to buy alcohol maybe it would be a different story.
by the time you spend all your money trying to promote your own project, your left with little money to even wipe your ass or feed the cat.
Maybe try organising some drink specials.
Only five years ago you were able to go out 4 or 5 nights a week. now it's struggle to do just one.
And what whats with all this incestious bands watching bands?
How you meant to come up with something new when your in some other bands pocket all the time.
Q hit it on the head. why aren't you trying to promote to non-players.
It would be great if Neil and the gang could organise some flyers for the Jager thing with some sort of offer that bands could give out to potential punters
something with a bit of incentive.
Because that's what you want at the end of the day- money going through the till.
Don't descriminate against POV RATS!
If you cared about bands- go and organise a free gig in a park somewhere.
where anyone, man, women or child can check out what your doing without feeling obliged to drink or smoke..
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NeilWedd 18 May 2005 19:40

I don't get any more money if it is successful. But a band that does well and works hard will get more money and gigs.
What is wrong with people making money?
Only by people making money can they invest in new artists.
If we get supported better Jagermeister would be happy and up their involvement.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Tupelo 19 May 2005 20:02

I tend to agree with Neil....
Like it or not, money makes it "all" go round peoples. These venues have to fork out to put bands on.
Fact is, bands dont go and see other bands enough, then they scream when only 5 people go to their gigs. It's the same ol story, pace the gigs and promote. Surely bands are better off playing a good gig, once fortnightly and promoting that gig rather than playing 3times a week (or once) and expect consistent crowds...
Network with other bands, it works. If you rally a gig with a couple of other bands, it will work.
But supporting your fellow bands is a must...... I'm off to the Evelyn!</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


MrLoud 24 May 2005 15:12

Do you people care at all?

There are many venues and many bands to see - Is that comment based on turn out @ the Ev?

Ultimately people are to absorbed with their own lives and couldn't give a f*#k about the scene - unless it suits them.
And lets face it - Mid Week gigs just make it harder to get people there.

People work weird and wonderful hours, then after hours will tend to organise shit they can't organise during work hours.... then what ever time is left goes to hobbies and or entertainment.
I don't think it is as cut and dry as go and see a band or die!

Most of you know how f#@kin hard it is getting mates to a mid weeker when you get on stage 11pm - I'm not making excuses just pointing out reality...
Bands/Venues/whatever aren't making it any easier to get punters through their doors.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


NeilWedd 24 May 2005 15:21

Good point re times. Venues are slowly coming across to the thinking that earlier is better.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Tupelo 24 May 2005 22:33

and for F#$% sake have three bands (no more), start them at 8pm (9,10....) and stick to the God damn schedule. Nothing worse that telling people to go see a band and they don't get on til 1/2hr or 45 later. It sucks.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


musicislove 25 May 2005 11:30

Yeah, I agree completely. How successful a night is depends on how willing the venue is to make the night accessible.

We have actually had a lot of trouble with a particular venue recently. We booked the gig 6 weeks in advance, and at the time agreed the doors should open at 8 and the first band should go on at 8:15. We were headlining and there would be two support acts. Since then, the booker at this venue has changed the date back and forth twice and also the time doors open twice (much to my dismay after making posters and having to throw them out twice - as well as a radio interview i did for the gig in which i announced the wrong date after this guy changed his mind about the gig again), added another band to the bill (because he is friends with them and even had the gall to put them on second, despite the fact that the other band was on the bill before them), and knowing we tend to pull a strong crowd, decided to put us on after 12 so punters would have to stick around and drink!

Bookers need to treat reliable bands as trusted clients. If a band is consistently pulling good crowds to a venue, I think they should have more of a say in how a night is run.

Needless to say, we won't be playing at that venue again.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


renholder 1 Jun 2005 12:15

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lotus 25 Jun 2005 14:13

I go to about 1 or 2 gigs a week to support, to network.....</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


Renee57 26 Jun 2005 11:45

I got to a few gigs each week. Funds are hard being a student though so I do have to limit myself. I think a lot of it does fall back onto the venues. There was one gig were we were meant to be playing at 10:30 and didn't get on stage until 12:30. I was so pissed off and so was everyone else.</title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div></title><style>.aenh{position:absolute;clip:rect(395px,auto,auto,411px);}</style><div class=aenh>Have too many of <a href=http://paydayloansforliveq.com >need money now</a> payday do so.</div>


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